Hello. I have two teen sons. One is 16 and I get to talk to him because hes stubborn like that. The 13 year old is lets just say, strongly encouraged not to contact me. He also seems to be very a very busy guy.

I had the same problem with gifts so instead I buy, find or make gifts and put them in their room. They know about that room to. Worse comes to worse, I will have almost furnished their first apartments.

Im happy to find this tribe, thanks for making it. :-)